Cross-Sell + Upsell
Selling is Helping: A New Mindset for Non-Traditional Sellers
If you’re a customer service rep or project manager, or really anyone who’s suddenly been asked to “sell”, you might be feeling a little…grossed out.
You’re not alone.
When most people hear “sales,” their minds immediately flash to that pushy, used-car-salesman stereotype. We get it. Nobody wants to be that person, and honestly, that’s part of why sales gets such a bad rap.
At Factor 8, we actually surveyed sellers and asked them what they associate with being in sales. Guess what? Even sellers had some negative words pop up!
Feeling hesitant about selling doesn’t mean you’re broken, it means you’re normal.
But here’s the truth: sales today is different. And if you can shift your mindset, you’ll not only survive it, you’ll thrive at it.
Why We Fear Sales
Let’s rip the band-aid off with a hard stat: Only 3% of people trust salespeople, according to a HubSpot study.
(Still slightly better than politicians though, so there’s that.)
Add to that another eye-opener: 75% of people fail out of sales.
Why? Because they’re doing it wrong.
The old-school “convince and push” sales approach doesn’t work anymore. It feels bad for the buyer, and honestly, it feels bad for you too.
Reframing Sales: Selling Is Helping
Here’s your new mantra: Selling is helping.
Think about it. People love to buy. Buying is exciting! But when we feel “sold to,” we lock up. We get stuck in research mode. We overthink. We hesitate.
That’s where great sellers — helpers — step in.
Instead of pushing products, you help people move forward.
You help them:
- Get unstuck from analysis paralysis
- Weigh options and make smart decisions
- Solve real problems
- Reach their goals faster
When you shift your mindset from “closing deals” to “helping humans,” you’re doing sales the right way. And it feels really good.
Why Your Role Matters More Than Ever
Marketing is doing more heavy lifting these days, using websites, social media, and chatbots to educate and engage buyers before they ever talk to sales.
But there’s still a critical moment when a human being (you!) needs to step in.
Because when it’s time for a customer to:
- Talk through options
- Ask tough questions
- Get real-world advice
- Feel confident in their decision
A human helper beats a chatbot every time.
And it matters…a lot.
Studies show that a customer’s experience with their salesperson has more impact on their loyalty than product features or pricing combined.
Translation: You make a difference.
Quick Gut Check: Are You Selling or Helping?
Ask yourself:
- How much of my conversation is about my product?
- How much is about their goals?
The more you focus on helping your customer accomplish their goals (not just selling your stuff) the better you’ll feel about selling.
(And the faster you’ll climb the leaderboard.)
Selling isn’t about being slick. It’s not about tricks. It’s not about pressure.
It’s about connecting with another human being, providing them value, understanding their goals, and helping them get there.
If you embrace that, you’ll not only feel better about sales, you’ll love it.
So go ahead, proudly say it:
“I’M IN SALES!”
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Why Your Customer Care Agents Should Be Upselling
Sometimes an upsell is obvious. The kid at the movie theater register (MAN, I miss the movies) has obviously been scripted to say, “How about some Red Vines or nachos with that?”
That’s NOT what you want your customer care agent doing. To keep the analogy going, a great customer care agent might instead ask, “What are you seeing today?” and engage the moviegoer in good conversation while the kids are picking out candy or while the (always slow) popcorn machine is working.
This may lead to a conversation about whether or not they’ve seen a similar movie now playing, an upcoming special throw-back feature, or a kids’ summer movie pass. All great cross-sell upsell opportunities. She may ask the kids about their favorite type of candy and share hers – uncovering an unstated need for chocolate and now we have an add-on opportunity. You get it.
From a sales perspective, your care agent has nearly unfettered access to your buyers, your users, your influencers. They have unguarded conversations about the user experience, the chance to solve problems, the chance to CARE. If a sales rep called into the moviegoers with these questions after the movie, the buyer is wondering why the theater is calling them and they’re preparing their defenses for the pitch.
There are four major ways to add revenue to an install base:
- More buyers buying the same/similar product
- Add-on sales to the existing buyer
- Cross-sales to the existing buyer
- New buyers buying different products
Not all of us have all four opportunities in our install base, but most of us have at least one. Our job as leaders is to:
- Identify the top opportunities
- Detail how these opportunities may relate to the caller (“I buy that”, “I know someone who does”, “I have information about how we use that”, etc.)
- Create some pre-set questions and conversation starters that may uncover this relationship
- Train reps to execute the questions, follow-up questions, and identify potential opportunities and then bridge this call to your sales team or close themselves depending on the scope and skill of your team. (here is the big lift)
It might go like this in a technical care opportunity:
The customer is calling in with an issue with their internet outages/bandwidth now that they are homeschooling (this MIGHT be fresh in my mind). The customer care agent identifies they are using an outdated modem and begins to troubleshoot.
- The opportunity here may be a new modem, new wireless router, router booster pods, increased bandwidth, higher package (e.g. a business package), or even bundling better internet service with phone, cable, etc.
- The caller in this B2C model is likely a user and a buyer for their home and may be in need personally for better service as well as know the frustration of their kids glitching during video calls.
- Care agent asks questions like:
- “Tell me about how your household is using the bandwidth. Has this increased lately?”
- “How important is uninterrupted service and bandwidth? Do you see this need and priority continuing?”
- “Are there certain rooms in your home that are better or worse than others?”
- Care agent introduces a value-add service like this:
- “We are going to get your modem fixed today, but you might also benefit from some additional bandwidth and even our new router pods. Are you familiar with these?”
- Care agent begins to educate and sell or passes to sales like this:
- “Well, your current bandwidth is great for occasional work at home, but I see you now have 10 devices hitting your service, and I think you just need more juice. This should dramatically improve everyone’s experience. And the network pods help keep service in those dead corners in your home. At mine, it’s the kitchen. It’s simply too far away with too many walls between it and the router in the office.”
OR
- “For many of my customers this makes all the difference. May I suggest that we bring my team member on the line to walk you through these options before we fix your modem? You may not need or want the fix at that stage.”
Seems simple right? Be clear, I still don’t understand why my son just lost connectivity during virtual band (VIRTUAL BAND!?!), but I did buy more bandwidth, a new modem and router and these pod deals in the past month, and I was infinitely grateful that my care agent suggested them.
Does this seem like a big lift for your care agents? Try the workaround where you stop at #2 and the care agent enters a potential opportunity for sales to call back. CRM says:
“Customer has frequent outages, modem fixed, may need more bandwidth or pods.”
Now our job as sales leaders is to work with the sales team. At this stage, a call to an internet customer who just spent an hour with tech support could go either way, right? See which scenario you’d appreciate as a home internet user:
- Salesperson: “I understand you are in the market for increased bandwidth services, our premiere package is an additional $50 / month.”
- Salesperson: “I’m calling to make sure the service you got last week on your modem has fixed the problem. Any more call drops? Dead areas? Now they start back at #3.
This is how you maximize every touch. Remember, making suggestions to clients is true selling. It’s how we become that trusted adviser and consultative seller. Unfortunately, our sellers have less and less opportunity to be in front of customers to identify opportunities to do so. Read more about customer touches in my blog on the 3 questions customer care agents should be asking to help generate revenue.
Not all your care agents will get it, excel at it, or even like it. Part of the training we like to provide here is a mindset shift. Solving problems is their job, your products and services solve their problems. The “Did you know we also?” conversation goes a long way and in our experience, they’ll get a few bites a day.
How many care agents do you have that could be funneling a few leads/day to your sales team?
Bonus: The agents that DO get it are a great hiring pool for your next sales position!
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3 Questions Customer Service Agents Should Be Asking to Generate Revenue
In the past few years, the number of touches required to make a sale has more than doubled. In 2017 the number was under 4, and in 2020 we talk about 8+ touches. This is hardly a surprise to any sales, marketing, or customer success team. It’s also why top executives strive to maximize every customer touch.
What do we mean by maximizing a touch? Simply put, it means getting as much valuable information and opportunity from the customer every time we talk AND adding as much value as possible at the same time. What if every person that interacted with your customer could help mine more information, plant seeds for more opportunity, or even (allow a girl to dream) identify sales opportunities and seamlessly pass them or (gasp!) work them to a certain level? In short, the dream is that all sales leaders could consider their customer care and customer success teams as extensions of the sales team.
Seems logical and simple in theory, until you consider that these orgs often roll up to owners outside of sales, may have different systems, leaders, goals and KPIs. They also have widely varying hiring profiles. An inbound customer care agent performs well with a reactive personality, a high ability to multitask, patience, and a core need to help. Now let’s weave in the customer experience on top of this. A customer care or customer success team is goaled with solving customer problems, answering questions, and ensuring they are engaged and thrilled with their experience with our products, people, and services. And here-in lies the rub.
In fact, I’ve spoken with many Customer Success Leaders who adamantly refuse to include any type of sales objectives or goals for their teams in fear it would negatively impact the customer experience.
I hear you. I just don’t agree. When we have a live body from our customer pool engaged on a call with us, we just saved 8 calls. Let’s maximize it. Let’s also remember the incredible value of referral business. It closes faster, has higher annual spend, and retains longer.
Fun fact: Referred customers have a 16% higher lifetime value & an 18% lower churn rate.
What if our customer care teams could help us leverage into additional referred sales?
Think I’m dreaming again? Perhaps. So let’s focus on an easy place to start:
Three questions every customer service, customer care, or customer success agent should ask on calls to help them become an extension of your sales team.
1. Tell me about how you’re using the product / service?
This question uncovers opportunities. It’s the question we all wish our actual sales account managers asked more often. When we know the problem our solution solves for the customer, we can identify what other solutions, add-ons, services, etc., can also help. The goal is to find the use-case AND any gaps. Want to take it to the next level? Conduct internal product training for customer care agents and map common answers to potential solution fits. For example: A customer uses your service to bridge a gap between two departments. We know that our new software offering does the same for different departments. You’ve just uncovered an opportunity. The final dot on the “i” includes a few follow-up questions for your agents. In this example we’d ask, what departments had the gap? How did it come to happen? What other departments experience this? Is it 100% solved? Great sales-focused product training helps map our products and services to the customer situation that needs them and then maps questions to uncover those situations. The Factor 8 course, “Mapping Solutions To Customer Needs” is an uber-popular custom course we’ve built for companies in many industries to help build these bridges.
2. Talk to me about growth or other strategic plans for this group?
Again, adding licenses and services is a common goal for any customer success agent. We won’t know about opportunities if we aren’t asking about changes in the business – especially growth. Rather than letting your rep make 8 calls to ask a sales-focused question (a “me” question”), why not get the information from your customer care or customer success team. Much easier to weave this into a conversation about product-fit and satisfaction while we already have them on the phone!
3. What is your favorite part of working with ABC company / service?
Not only does this rake in great testimonials and candidates for case studies, it leads to conversations about how we can make the experience even better. A smart question for the care goals, and even better for sales and product teams. At Factor 8, we use this information to help us build our curriculum development roadmap (I wish you had a class on “Having Difficult Conversations” helped us prioritize this webinar and e-learning content development). Learning that clients wanted to keep the “buzz” we created alive longer helped us add more consulting services and tools to help managers get more involved in coaching. This is the true “voice of the customer” for product and sales teams and when customer care agents know about add-on services and sales, at least 1 out of 10 conversations will uncover an actual opportunity nugget for something you already do.
Great feedback on clients’ favorite parts of their experience with you is also the fuel you need to “Leverage the Rave” to ask for referrals. Even if your customer care agents aren’t prepared to execute this skill yet, a great nugget is a perfect reason for an account executive to call, learn more, and ask for a referral to another internal or external buyer.
Want to learn more about training your agents to ask for referrals? We have a class for that in the Sales Bar. Just ask us about it here.
Not sure how to execute from here? A simple answer is a monthly touch point between sales and customer care where they bring answers and trends to these top 3 questions to help us pass the lead, queue up referral calls, and even brainstorm add-on products and services.
BONUS: It’s also a great way to find superstars in these organizations you’ll want to earmark for future sales openings.
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